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A Worthy Rant to Product Reps

3/21/2017

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Contributed by Cherise Lakeside
Be warned, this is going to be somewhat of a rant and likely not for those whose sensibilities are easily offended.  I am a little disheartened that, in this day and age, I would even feel the need to write this.  Honestly though, after 30 years, it feels good to unload some of these frustrations. 

I need to preface this blog with the fact that I have come to know many amazing product reps since I joined CSI.  For those amazing Reps, this blog is NOT for or about you. 

This blog is about what I will call “The Others.”  Some of this blog is about how “The Others” interact with women in the AEC industry.

While it is not particularly important for the purpose of this writing but, in the interest of full disclosure, I was the Standards Coordinator at a fairly large Engineering Firm that does work all over the world and am now a specifier at a multi-office architecture firm.  I have been a the keeper and guardian of Master Specs, run a QA/QC program and performed various other duties associated with having quality documents and consistent standards.  I have over 30 years of experience in AEC.

Because we had multiple disciplines and I am not an Engineer (most of my career was spent in architecture) I did not typically make final product decisions.  That was left to the engineers.  I am the central information point for feedback and information on our engineers experience with particular products.

One side piece to my former job was supervising two of our general office staff.  It is the responsibility of our administrative assistant (newly hired to replace the last one who was promoted) to set up lunch and learns.  I had not trained her to do this.  I have performed this task since the promotion of our last administrative assistant because I find that having a direct line to our product reps helps me do my job better.  We had far too many lunch & learns in our office for it to be feasible for me to attend every single one.  Performing this task gives me an opportunity to speak with every product rep whether I can attend their event or not.  It also helps me get specific information that I need and get to know them.

In addition to my work, I have become heavily involved in CSI and have attended the last five CONSTRUCT Shows as well as many of our Chapter’s Industry Forums which both have a product show component.
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And that is where my rant begins.  For “The Others” I have a few words of advice.  I hope you will take this advice in the spirit in which it is given.  Some of you are so insulting that your behavior is shared far beyond that initial phone call that you make.  That behavior does not go over well with the folks you are trying to reach so please, take heed of some words to live by:
  1. DO NOT assume that just because a woman is scheduling your lunch & learn, that she does not know what she is doing.  Likely I could teach you more than a thing or two.
  2. DO NOT ask me to order your lunches or go around and take individual orders for lunches.  We have as many as 6 lunch & learns a week sometimes.  I am pretty sure my rather large company did not factor into our operating budget doing your job for you.  We give you full instructions as soon as you schedule. Please read them.
  3. DO NOT leave your mess behind for someone here to clean up.
  4. DO NOT call me demanding that your Product needs to be immediately inserted in our specs because you talked to a Principal about it.  Name dropping one of my bosses is not going to get you into our Masters any faster.  We have procedures here and that boss will let me know when he wants your product incorporated into our specs.  If you are not in yet, there is a reason for it and I likely know that reason.  For example, maybe another Principal with whom you did not meet had a disaster on their project due to your product.
  5. DO NOT send me 30 pages of poorly written manufacturers specs and expect it is getting into my Master anytime soon.  Your company clearly has not taken the time to be a member of CSI or to learn the spec writing principles and language that is essential to specifications in the project delivery process.  I have spent as much as three days rewriting a manufacturer spec to make it usable in our CONTRACT documents.  If you want your products put in my master quickly, learn how to give me the specs the way I need them.
  6. When you come to visit, DO NOT talk to me like I am some kind of moron because you assume I am a flunky.  I don’t care if it is me, my Administrative Assistant or the janitor, I will not tolerate it.
  7. Manufacturers, at product shows, LOSE the slick used car salesmen in the 3-piece suits.  I can spot them a mile away and avoid them like the plague.  I want someone authentic and engaging who knows their stuff and will give it to me straight.  If your product is not for me, that is what I want to hear.  Be real and do not be pushy.
  8. At product shows, give me the information I asked you for.  DO NOT try to keep me at your booth for 4 hours telling me about every single product under the sun that you offer.  I have a lot of people to see.  It leaves a bad taste in my mouth when you try to corner me and I probably won’t stop by again.  If I ask you for additional information and to follow up after the show, you should probably do that.  Not one of you did from the last show I attended.
  9. At product shows, DO NOT assume that I am not worth your time because my badge said engineering and you rep architectural products.  Not only is most of my history in architecture and, for all you know, I may end up back there but I am also a leader in my very large CSI Chapter, counting many of our local architects as friends.  My good opinion of you and your products, whether I spec them or not, might just carry some weight somewhere.
  10. Honey (I assume if you call me that, it is OK to call you that), my eyes are up here, in the middle of my face.  Please talk to those eyes, there are some brains behind them.

The bottom line here, you don’t really know who you are talking to, who they might know or where they may be going in their career.  It is in your best interest to leave behind a favorable impression with EVERY SINGLE person you meet.

And, to those amazing product reps I do know, Thank You! 

Thank you for:
–          Knowing your stuff
–          Trusting that I know mine
–          Giving me the information I need in the format that I need it so I can run with it
–          Not being condescending or disrespectful
–          Not being dismissive because it does not appear that I can immediately help you
–          Being that trusted advisor that I can always count on and respect.

You are the ones that set the standard for all of the rest of them!
11 Comments
Julia Bradley
3/22/2017 07:51:14 am

LOVE this! Even in this day and age many reps assume women are not knowledgeable. I understood it 26 years ago when I started in this industry, but it really should be much better than it is by now!

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Remberto (Ron) Leiseca link
3/22/2017 08:28:54 am

Love it Cherise!

As a long time rep, you deal with many persons and many different levels, and the one person you are dealing today, that some may regard as a "flunky" or not important, could be that person with the authority and/or influence to make a decision to give a product a review for a current project or in five years, and even at another firm.

It's about relationships, and reps, influenced in a lot of cases by the manufacturer, forget about that and the longer view.

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Eric Rieckers
3/22/2017 10:25:59 am

Item #5 really strikes a chord. Product reps preach about specifications daily yet rarely take the time to really learn about the very topic of their sermons.

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Heather M Marquard
3/22/2017 03:15:56 pm

Thank you!

Sadly, this very much needed publishing. And I hope the folks who are so egregious in their behaviour actually read it and take it to heart. Call me a cynic, but I suspect the ones who exhibit these behaviours have no interest in imagining they're not perfect or wanting to change.

And so the work must continue...every architect, engineer, and other designer in the industry should use your article as a standard for what they should expect and should not tolerate.

Keep up the good work! I join you from way over here in the same efforts. Hopefully one day they'll put us out of business on this "work"!

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Keith Robinson link
3/23/2017 12:10:27 pm

We have had a few manufacturers reps that exhibited this sort of behavior... and where there was little interest in actually supporting our specifications they were simply shown the door.

On a more positive note - we have found that some of these types of people can be saved once they are made aware of the issues, particularly where they have a good product line and it is obvious that the person will be involved with the project for any amount of time.

I very much ascribe to the principle that people often do not know about bad behavior unless it is pointed out to them - if they do not care give them the boot, if they are surprised you just gained an ally.

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Nicole Lemmond
3/23/2017 12:30:16 pm

Great post Cherise! I have seen these behaviors come up far too many times when I was working in the Engineering and Architecture firms.

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Russ Snow
3/29/2017 02:55:21 pm

Very well written Cherise. As someone that tries not to be one of "The Others", you have described everything I try (and try not :)) to be. It is a shame that individuals and companies still act that way.

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John Cleary link
4/13/2017 10:53:45 am

What irks me the most is when a rep insists on seeing me without knowing anything about our firm or what we do. When someone wants to see me regarding hospital equipment and we haven't done healthcare in 20 years, it's a waste of his time and mine to meet. They seem offended when I explain that to them.

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Roy Schauffele FCSI CCPR FABAA link
2/27/2018 06:17:45 am

Another good post, perhaps an even better reason to resurrect, reinforce, and support the CSI CCPR program

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